Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aesthetic Films

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The result was delete per WP:SNOW. At best this is WP:TOOSOON, as these are a collection of YouTube films (some unreleased) by a new, amateur filmmaker. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aesthetic Films

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Completely unsourced articles about a "film studio" and three of its films -- except the film studio is primarily a YouTube channel, the short films are really just uploads to it, and the "feature film" is in production and has no sourceable distribution information (such as film festival screenings) yet. All three articles were created by a user named "Rcamua", an evident conflict of interest since the studio was founded and the films were directed by "Raphael Camua" -- and the other pitfall to watch out for here is that the claimed list of music videos does not assist notability at all, as he wasn't the director of any of the songs' official artist-endorsed music videos, but instead simply made his own unofficial alternate videos for the songs which received distribution nowhere but his own YouTube channel itself. As always, Wikipedia is not a free public relations platform on which every amateur filmmaker gets to have an article about his company or his films just because his own YouTube channel verifies that he exists -- he and the films must be the subject of reliable source coverage in media, verifying a claim of notability that passes WP:CREATIVE, WP:CORP or WP:NFILMS, to earn an article on here. Delete all. Bearcat (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. ProgrammingGeek (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 19:22, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm actually going to speedy delete this as WP:A7. There's nothing on the Internet about this guy that would show that he passes notability guidelines other than his own publications and there's not really anything on the page that would assert that he's notable in the slightest. The page is also incredibly deceptive, as it's written to give off the impression that Camua directed the official music videos for the various performers, which clearly isn't the case. Making a fan video isn't the same thing as making an official music video - not even close. I'm also going to post a warning on the guy's page against creating articles on things that he's done, since it seems fairly clear that this is the director himself posting his work to Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted the company page, although I can't speedy the others. As soon as we get a delete or two for the films, I'll snow close this. I don't see this closing any other way, TBH. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I could delete Unknown Caller since that was a YT only release and as such, it'd also fall under A7. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as I actually closed this but was not aware there were other articles listed for the nomination, Delete all as they are all questionable. SwisterTwister talk 04:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was just about to revert this - I think I may just close this as WP:SNOW. I really, really don't see this closing any other way even if I were to wait for others to weigh in. Ultimately what we have here is a young filmmaker that has recently begun creating things and posting them to YT. The films are actually fairly well done and look very good, but these films and the company fail notability guidelines fairly solidly, as these are all done by someone who has only been active for three years and has under 100 followers on YT. Hopefully he will make it in the future, but for now he's just not notable by Wikipedia guidelines and falls under A7 criteria. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Well, if it will help, here's another delete vote. I don't see anything usable. Google search results are basically just YouTube hits and some Wikipedia mirrors. Sometimes YouTube films do become notable, such as The Punisher: Dirty Laundry, but it's rare, even when they're quite good. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.